Saturday, March 30, 2013

3-30 Daily Fracking Mess

My "Daily Fracking mess" post are frack info shared to me by others , please share too. Everything you see here was in my email today plus more !

 I posted a great report this AM from Diana on the 2 MEC meetings on the 22nd .

Democracy in Action as Fracking is Voted Down in Colorado Springs – EcoWatch
http://ecowatch.com/2013/fracking-voted-down-colorado-springs/#.UVbhnev-Rwo.gmail

Family says gas drilling turning paradise home into nightmare !
with video 
http://www.wtae.com/news/local/investigations/Family-says-gas-drilling-turning-paradise-home-into-nightmare/-/12023024/19524746/-/9emijj/-/index.html#ixzz2P2YXwZPX

 Energy industry develops nontoxic fracking fluids- (Much doubt about how widely they will be used.) 
http://pipeline.post-gazette.com/news/archives/25031-energy-industry-develops-nontoxic-fracking-fluids#.UVcNg7y7cYc.gmail

Air pollutants linked to higher risk of birth defects
http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/show_story.php?id=29082#.UVb5cL4sU5E.gmail

Happy Easter  !
peace terica

report on 2 MEC meetings March22

 




Well while I am bouncing around getting pics and video at these meetings, it is hard for me to sit down and write notes on these meetings . Thankfully not all our fractivist wear the same hat ! Diane sent this wonderful report to some of us and I asked her for permission to share with You too. 

NOTES FROM DIANA HALES from March 22nd 2013
 
Note: All Study Groups report to full Mining & Energy Commission. Study Groups have numerous “invited” members representing various government sectors, public and private interests. Their recommendations will “advise” the Legislature regarding future laws.
Compulsory Pooling Study Group chaired by Ray Covington (MEC members attending: Jim Womack and Charles Holbrook). Held in Sanford.
1. Approved “use of surface” recommendation: No surface operations or disturbances to the surface of the land shall occur on a tract pooled by an order without the written consent of or a written agreement with the owner of the tract that approves the operations or disturbances.
2. Review of cost-sharing statutes from NY, AR (Arkansas), CO, OH, TX, WV on working with “hold-outs” in a compulsory pool. This relates to receiving a share of royalties when a well produces. Three approaches:
(a) Free ride (currently NC law) allows non-consenting owner to share in profits from production with NO risks or cost involved with exploration or development. Encourages hold-outs from joining voluntary pooling agreements.
(b) Risk penalty. When a well is successful, hold-out is assessed a percentage of production costs to reimburse the operator for the risk of development and drilling. This share of costs is withheld from royalties, along with an additional percentage of “risk penalty” of 200%, or more. Half the states use this approach.
(c) Surrender of working interest. The hold-out can assign their interest to the operator in exchange for a bonus payment, and/or royalty interest...sort of like a lease with the operator. “Just and reasonable” terms would be determined by the oversight body (MEC, DENR?) and give landowners several choices for royalty distribution, sharing production costs of the well, and perhaps additional risk penalty. Discussion about length of lease with operator in this case.
Establishing “drilling units” are the responsibility of MEC [Womack says may have to do this before October 2014]. Don’t want to divide a parcel so it ends up in different units or pools. Rough standard acreage for a drilling unit is 640 acres. Holbrook said since a horizontal run (the fracking part) can go 1,000 to 2,000 ft., a drilling unit might extend into a neighboring drilling unit. Unanswered questions about liability for the landowners forced into the pool in the event of a well blow-out. Strategy is to encourage everybody to lease, not hold out. Even competing operators can be “compelled” into a drilling unit. From the other side, need to provide a way for land owners (or operators) to petition for inclusion into a pool. Group seemed to prefer the Risk Penalty approach (see b). Holbrook says risk penalty percentage should be linked to the market price of MCF (million cubic feet) of natural gas...the lower the market price for gas, the higher the assessed percentage of risk penalty.
3. Discussion about six stages of a lease; rights of unleased land owners; and the split estates where surface and mineral rights are severed. Covington said there are 100 property owners in Lee Co. that have split estates (by deed). Discussion regarding estates (surface owners and/or subsurface mineral owners) whose property is divided with multiple heirs; not all can be located. A problem. At this time, the NC surface owner has primacy over subsurface lease holder.
4. Outline of potential issues for study report, offered by member, Atty. John Humphrey: Indemnification of subsurface and surface owners; pooling of special lands (ex. churches, local govt. property); setbacks; geographic scope of pooling unit; time limitations; water and air testing; costs; payment structures and reports to landowners; due process.
 
 
5. Pearls: Womack said NC, with our shallow shale, should not chase industry away, even though NC will attract smaller operators. Holbrook said not to worry about smaller operators because there are a limited number of companies that do the drilling, casing, and cementing; and all operators use only these companies. [Hmmm, so how will this create NC jobs?] Holbrook said when the operator takes control, that company is in charge of the surface as well as the subservice. Womack said the federal Bureau of Land Management wants to establish its own water use rules for their managed lands, and NC should “fight” to make the feds use state rules. Womack said need to increase “demand side” for NC’s own natural gas with Regional Economic Development councils, PSNC and Duke Energy.
 
Local Government Study Group chair Charles Taylor, absent; Jim Womack controlled meeting. (MEC member attending: Charles Holbrook.) Held in Sanford.
1. Local Zoning and Regulations. Bob Bridwell, Director, Sanford/Lee County Planning Dept., said Lee Co. (unlike Chatham and Moore) has county-wide zoning and operates under a unified development ordinance (UDO) for entire county/municipalities that covers all land use regulations, including zoning, building codes and flood plain management. There are 25 counties that have a UDO, the rest of the counties either have NO zoning, or piecemeal along highway corridors. If NC legislation prevents local governments from using their zoning and nuisance abatement authority, Lee Co. will focus its regulatory perspective on ancillary activities (water & waste treatment lines, gas lines, pumping stations, material storage, trucking and fuel terminals, worker housing). Womack, a Lee County Commissioner, said that state legislation could “override local authority and will not allow local land use to interfere with drilling. “ Bridwell said public utility (gas) lines are allowed across all property zones in UDO. Discussion on how to treat special districts (i.e. voluntary agricultural districts) that could co-exist on same parcel that might be fracked. NC Assoc. of County Commissioners rep said to keep zoning authority at the county level. Bridwell said because of the differences between counties, the MEC should request minimum regulations that would apply to all. Holbrook said PA is “onerous” for industry since each township (sort of like a mini-county) has different rules and the industry has to negotiate with each one separately. NC Institute of Government representative said noise restrictions might need to be different depending on location of well. Also said to set a standard and cede to local authority, without granting the ability to shut the operation down, but be able to grant waivers to achieve reasonable accommodation.
2. Property taxes. Bridwell said that land use is determined by the surface only; no differentiation for subsurface use. He seemed to favor “special-use permits” to establish standards for Board of Adjustment process. Discussion on how to treat special districts (i.e. voluntary agricultural districts) that could co-exist on a parcel that might also be fracked. This is tax question because of present-use-value (ex. a reduced property tax rate on agricultural land) when same property owner could receive royalty returns from a productive well. NC Assoc. of County Commissioners representative suggested drawing a line between present-use-value to exempt it from mineral bonanza (if it occurs). Discussion about increase/decrease in value of surface land if the mineral lease interferes with future development of surface. Need NC Dept. of Revenue input on how to tax royalties, since ad valorum tax should be paid to county. Would that be an appraised value or actual value of minerals extracted? Womack had interesting point about the January 1st county property tax listing that asks everyone to declare property (boats, RVs, unlicensed vehicles, etc.) for taxation where it resides. He said some companies actually move equipment from one NC county to another NC county to take advantage of the lowest property tax rate.
3. Fracking Wastewater to Cumnock? Womack asked if new wastewater plant in Cumnock could handle flowback waste. Lee Co. Public Works said it would need pretreatment FIRST since this plant is designed for domestic waste only. Womack asked if the pretreatment facility could be built at the same site, or in proximity. Holbrook says Halliburton says they can do pretreatment; and by the time the industry “arrives” in NC, there will be a pretreatment process and less water will be used. Holbrook mentioned the industry’s Trade Secret fracking compounds are now beginning to substitute “green” chemicals for toxic chemicals, and “problems will be over in two to three years.”
4. Setbacks are issue, but from what---homes, property lines, schools, streams?
5. Authority to make decisions on gathering lines? Womack said this is a question for Attorney General, but doesn’t want this to be a “special restriction” for the oil and gas industry. This topic handed over to Holbrook’s Administration of Oil & Gas Committee to investigate.
Diana Hales, retired
 
 
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Friday, March 29, 2013

3-29 Daily Fracking mess

My "Daily Fracking mess" post are frack info shared to me by others , please share too. Everything you see here was in my email today plus more  !



FrackUpdate: March 27-28

Events
  • April 2, 7 PM, Asheville: "Message from the Marcellus" screening and discussion. Find out more!
  • April 4-5, Raleigh: Mining & Energy Commission Meeting. Agenda here.
  • April 20-21, Raleigh, Climate Convergence. See schedule, details, speakers
  • April 25, Durham: Compelling Campaigns for the Environment. An EcoAdvocate seminar, find out more!

for more http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=97adb760aa5114f25fbb07c68&id=edf22703eb&e=6f52190649

Headlines ....
Sand From Fracking Could Pose Lung Disease Risk To Workers : Shots - Health News : NPR
Workplace inspectors with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration wouldn't have been aware of this potential risk for fracking workers before this recent study because, unless they receive a complaint or there's an accident, they generally don't see the process of hydraulic fracturing. That part of setting up a well happens quickly — and once a well is up and running, contractors move on to the next one.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/03/28/175042708/Sand-From-Fracking-Operations-Poses-Silicosis-Risk#.UVV0nE_bCFk.gmail

http://nyti.ms/13wl6KX>Parts of Low Country are
now quake country. Thousands of houses were
damaged during recent earthquakes that have
shaken the flat farmland of Loppersum in the
Netherlands. The quakes were caused by the
extraction of natural gas from the soil deep
below. <http://www.nytimes.com>New York Times
http://nyti.ms/13wl6KX

<http://bit.ly/13wh0CF>Big Oklahoma quake in 2011
likely man-made. An unusual and widely felt
5.6-magnitude quake in Oklahoma in 2011 was
probably caused when oil drilling waste was
pushed deep underground, a team of university and
federal scientists concluded.
<http://www.ap.org>Associated Press
http://bit.ly/13wh0CF

Bad Boy Drillers in WV ~ Life After

WASTEWATER: Multiple violations don't change habits of some W.Va. drillers

(Tuesday, March 26, 2013)

Gayathri Vaidyanathan, E&E reporter
Some oil and gas operators in West Virginia spilled wastewater into the environment even after getting multiple citations from the state Department of Environmental Protection.
Between 2011 and 2012, companies including Raven Ridge Energy LLC, Chesapeake Appalachia LLC, Patriot Energy Inc. and EQT Corp. were cited for repeated violations including working without a permit, spilling wastes into state waters, and failing to properly construct roads and pads.
Threats to ground and surface water from oil and gas drilling pose one of the bigger challenges for state regulators. Once well pads are constructed and wells are drilled and hydraulically fractured, significant amounts of mud, flowback and wastewater are generated. Up to 4 million gallons of water is used to frack each well. Companies can dump their wastewater in pits, which are containment dams lined with plastic. The water is later disposed of in underground injection control wells, and the pits are filled in and reclaimed.
Inspection reports from the DEP's Office of Oil and Gas (OOG) show repeated violations by operators, sometimes on the same well pad within a span of months. The OOG, working within the narrow confines of its power granted by the state Legislature, initially issues violation notices to a company. If the problems on a work site are not fixed, the OOG can issue a stop work notice, assess a fine, or file a misdemeanor charge or injunctive relief. The office cannot withdraw a permit already granted, but it can suspend it and block future permits.
In April 2011, Raven Ridge Energy was cited for constructing a well pad without first informing the OOG. Then in May, the company was cited for building an illegal road up to the well pad. The construction led to sediment fouling the creek. "Start adhering to permit as approved, quit taking short cuts," inspector Terry Urban wrote in the violation notice. The company later fixed the violations.
Similar incidents with other companies suggest that a violation notice, instead of being a deterrent, is a good indicator of future misdeeds.
Because Raven cleaned up after each violation was found, it did not get a stop work order. But the company continued violating environmental regulations on other well pads. In December 2011, it was cited for not having a sediment control plan in place on a well pad. The same month, it was cited for starting work at another location without a permit. In February and June 2012, the company was cited for polluting waters of the state. In December 2012, it was cited for beginning work without a permit and for failing to prevent sediment from contaminating surface waters.
The DEP said it has stepped up its enforcement, adding eight inspectors to its rolls. The state has updated its law to deal with horizontal drilling, and the DEP currently has 40 pages of new rules for approval in the Legislature, Kathy Cosco, communications director of the DEP, said in an email.

Work now, fix later

Inspection records from the OOG and landowner complaints suggest the industry sometimes violates first and fixes later. A recent report on ground pits in West Virginia suggested as much, finding that operators often ignore the conditions of their permits when building pits and do not follow best management practices (EnergyWire, March 22).
The challenges in regulating the industry are laid out in the case of Elkview, W.Va.-based Patriot Energy. Urban arrived at a Patriot Energy work site on Dec. 23, 2010, and found crude oil spilling from cut pipelines. He issued a notice of violation to the company.
That evening, Gary Payne, the chief executive officer of Patriot Energy, called Urban and "stated if I would meet him for breakfast about a job as an environmental coordinator and would pay me cash under the table," Urban wrote in a note. "I abruptly told Payne I would not do that!!"
Payne told EnergyWire that he had wanted not to offer a bribe but to hire Urban as an environmental consultant. He was having problems with environmental compliance, and Urban's skills would have helped, he said.
Urban subsequently issued 25 violation notices to Patriot Energy in 2011 and 2012. Some wells were not marked with an American Petroleum Institute identification number. Other wells had wastewater contaminating streams, and in other cases, the company had not called the DEP to report a spill. Gas sometimes leaked from wellheads. Problems were not abated.
In January 2011, Payne complained to the OOG that Urban was unfairly targeting his company for violations when other operators were equally negligent. He pointed to cases where storage tanks were leaking in plain view by the side of the road. Urban was selective in his enforcement, he wrote in an email to the OOG.
"AGAIN, with no land owner complaint," he wrote, as though OOG inspections should not happen without specific complaints.
The OOG has not issued violations against Patriot Energy since 2012. The company continues to operate in the state.

Help for surface owners?

The politics between drillers and DEP enforcement has left landowners sometimes feeling shorthanded in taking on the industry. Landowners say it can be difficult to get action from the DEP on spills on their property, and they are not always informed of a violation that could affect their water resources.
When the OOG issues violation notices for water contamination, it sometimes asks the company to test soil for toxic chemicals. In one case in Harrison County , that testing was the beginning and end of the enforcement, said Marc Glass, an environmental scientist at Downstream Strategies who often works with landowners to document contamination.
When Glass arrived at the client's property in September 2011, he saw a pit in the ground holding flowback and produced water. The 40-millimeter plastic sheet lining the pit was torn.
The pit was in direct contact with fractured bedrock, a potential conduit between the flowback and groundwater, according to Glass. When he tested the family's water well, he found contaminants including hydrocarbons, arsenic, manganese, chlorides and other contaminants of gas drilling. The family's water supply was tainted.
Water monitoring wells would have allowed the DEP to track the movement of the contaminant plumes in case they posed a risk to groundwater, but they weren't required in this case.
"If it was a gas station that had leaked the same contaminants, there would be several monitoring wells required by law," Glass said. "But for the oil and gas industry, it is not automatically required by law, it is at the discretion of the Division of Oil and Gas."
The DEP said in an email that there have been spills where it has required groundwater and stream monitoring to ensure there are no residual pollutants.
The violation on this property was abated in September 2011, according to OOG records. That's an indication of how narrowly the agency defines the abatement process, because two years after the incident, the homeowners are still struggling with their water supply. The gas company has been supplying the family with bottled water. The family is now lobbying the company for a filter on their drinking water well.
"The Office of Oil and Gas sees it [violations] as a civil issue between surface owner and gas company," said the landowner, who prefers to remain anonymous because he is negotiating with the gas company. "There is no state agency that helps the surface owner."
In another case, Casey Griffith, a landowner in Marion County , recalled that a driller on his property had allowed an impoundment in front of his house to drain into a creek. Griffith called the DEP and provided the agency with photos of the violation. The agency did not write up the violation, he said. In another incident, the company had built the well pad without soil and erosion control, allowing sediment to flow off the well site, across the country road and into his yard.

Repeat violators

One of the cases of repeated violations was logged in Fayette County , near the town of Lochgelly . Danny Webb Construction Inc. got a permit in 2002 to operate an underground injection control (UIC) well. The company collects wastewater from oil and gas operators and stores it in a ground pit for a while. It then pumps the materials into the ground for disposal.
In 2004, residents smelled a sulfurous odor. They called the DEP, which found that the company had stored the sulfur-containing wastewater from Bobcat Oil and Gas Inc. in an open pit. The pit was giving off the smell, associated with toxic hydrogen sulfide gas. The DEP ordered the company to immediately stop working with Bobcat.
But the company continued to receive Bobcat wastewater until 2007, according to DEP records.
Meanwhile, residents continued to complain of bad smells. One resident said the smell was so strong that he immediately called 911. The county health department also noted in 2007 that several residents had complained. Danny Webb, proprietor of the company, had told them the fumes were emitted when gases collecting inside tanks storing wastewater were vented to the atmosphere.
The company did not return a request for comment.
The DEP also found the work site did not have the culverts, ditch lines and sediment control needed to prevent sediments from flowing into the creek, the Natural Resources Defense Council wrote in a letter to the DEP.
The same year, an inspector with the DEP's underground storage tank program wrote to the OOG of Webb: "He is a loose cannon, doing as he jolly well pleases, right or wrong, regulations be damned."
Despite unabated violations, the agency renewed the company's permit in October 2007. At the same time, the agency asked the company to shut down its pits.
"There is strong evidence that DEP has turned a blind eye to a flagrant violator and DEP must use this case to reassess its oversight of the UIC program and all oil and gas waste management in the state of West Virginia," Matthew McFeeley, a staff attorney with the NRDC, wrote to the OOG.
In 2008, the company was cited for operating a well without a permit. The OOG also found that the company had not closed down its pit. This was OK because the company monitors a nearby stream for pollutants, wrote Cosco, communications director of the DEP.
"We have not seen parameters such as chlorides and hydrocarbons substantially elevated, which would indicate pit leakage," she wrote.
The company continues to operate in the state. That's because the company had addressed all the violations issued to it, Cosco added.
The DEP will hold a public hearing in the next few weeks on renewing the company's permit, she said.

More tomorrow ... peace

Thursday, March 28, 2013

Fracking Mess headlines

Hellebores blooming are such a treat

 I am getting Spring fever and trying to keep up with all the Fracking Shale Gas news and getting it posted on the facebook page is getting harder and harder.
So I am going to try making a daily blog with the links I found interesting.
Plus after posting great information for a year at the facebook page I realize how hard it is to search for a certain topic there vs on this blog I tag things so if you search for a certain topic say "Jim Womack , MEC , videos etc you will find them much easier. Hopefully .
From the Fracking headlines.........
locally NC regulators to measure air quality in Lee County in anticipati​on of fracking
Shale gas exploration, loosely referred to as fracking, involves heavy industry such as drill rigs, trucks and compressors that release diesel fumes and other pollutants.
The work plan for air quality monitoring cites “direct and fugitive air emissions of a complex mixture of pollutants from the natural gas resource itself as well as from diesel engines, tanks, impoundment ponds and on-site materials used in production.”
Shale gas exploration in other states has led to complaints about noise pollution as well as physical irritants caused by industrial emissions.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/26/2781713/nc-regulators-to-measure-air-quality.html#.UVMu7HB8Mm4.gmail#storylink=cpy
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/26/2781713/nc-regulators-to-measure-air-quality.html#.UVMu7HB8Mm4.gmail

Waterless Fracking Makes Headway in Texas, Slowly | StateImpac​t Texas
http://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/2013/03/27/waterless-fracking-makes-headway-in-texas-slowly/#.UVN7cymy5s0.gmail
after reading the story above about "propane hydraulic fracturing" I remembered reading of this in the past . Bill Huston's blog gave a good description of this process vs with water .
http://williamahuston.blogspot.com/2012/04/truth-about-fracking-with-propane.html

Neither in my opinion sounds smart or safe !
Last March at the 1st Goverment frack workshop I'd attended , I heard a Profracking politician from Indiana County PA say , when asked about the SECRET cocktail in fracking fluids ..."Just because the ingredients are not shown, does not mean they are unsafe ! He had heard of one company that was talking of using coffee in the mix !" Saying "there are lots of Household ingredients being used ."
Well as a serious coffee drinker that was not appealing to me ! Coffee cost too much as is ! If they have to grow it for O&G use, what will a lb of coffee be in the store then ??
Now they are talking of using another bean ? again doesn't those beans need water and land to grow? If they use the supply growing now that normally is used for Food where does this leave the food consumers ???
I don't go anywhere without my coffee !


now here's a great headline ! made me grin a little !
Gas Industry Report Calls Anti-Fracking Movement a "Highly Effective Campaign"
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/15354-gas-industry-report-calls-anti-fracking-movement-a-highly-effective-campaign
From a O&G article they say ...
"The global anti-fracking movement has mounted an effective campaign against the extraction of unconventional gas through hydraulic fracturing ('fracking') as witnessed through local bans in the US and Canada; national moratoriums in France and Bulgaria and tighter regulation in Australia and the UK.

Meanwhile the oil and gas industry has largely failed to appreciate social and political risks, and has repeatedly been caught off guard by the sophistication, speed and influence of anti-fracking activists."
 
 
1st Lee County residents information meeting on fracking
 a fabulous NC writer Judy Hogan wrote ..." It's hard to believe, but I remember the Vietnam War, those early protestors, a mere handful marchng down the street. Four years later, the President resigned and we got out of Vietnam. This is non-partisan. When I talked to my neighbors last weekend, those 11 who signed had known nothing about what threatens us. We have to spread the word. Talk to your plumber, the postmaster, the neighbors, the garbage collectors. It's not just the twelve counties in Central NC that are threatened, but NC as it has been, a tourist attraction, enough water (almost), beautiful beaches and lakes, farm country."
you can find her blog here ...why-i-oppose-fracking by Judy

next headline sounds creepy to me ?? what do you think?
Tracers may ease public’s fracking fears
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/03/03/2720517/tracers-may-ease-publics-fracking.html#.UVN8yKGGX7Y.gmail
 


And last but not least while I go off to play outside ... A big nightmare for me ...

Small Towns Find Fracking Brings Boom, Booming Headaches
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-27/small-towns-find-fracking-brings-boom-booming-headaches.html#.UVN8Q_Cb4cA.gmail
 
 



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if you need more to read ... here are other headlines shared with me from other Fractivist lately ...
http://theintelligencer.net/page/content.detail/id/582958/New-Frack-Plant-Faces-Opposition.html?nav=515#.UVMxZkjQKII.gmail

Earthquakes ...States deciding not to look at seismic risks of drilling

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/27/study-links-fracking-wastewater-to-massive-2011-oklahoma-quake/

Monday, March 25, 2013

Patronizing Compulsory Pooling Study group

Patronizing : to adopt an air of condescension toward : treat haughtily or coolly
If you are patronizing, you tend to speak down to others, acting as though you are smarter, classier, or just plain better than anyone else.
 
Loved pulling up to the meeting seeing this !

 
March 22 was "World Water Day" for that reason I decided to go to the both MEC meetings scheduled at the Lee county McSwain Center . Dedicate my day to standing up for our Earth's water.
Well I went to the so called Compulsory Pooling study group ? 1st they called it a Workshop now Study ...either way ,it seems to me that they have their minds made up and don't want the general publics concerns or input . I intended going and writing a blog on a full report of my understandings of the meeting. Half of the speakers straining I could hardly hear and really did not hear enough to really get anything out of most of it?
I stood up near the front through a lot just to record it with my camera in hope to relisten later .
BTW ,I did find out after the meeting the full minutes and audio are supposed to be posted later at DENR ...
Well after the way that Ray Covington responded to a member of the audience I totally forgot most of what i intended to blog about and it has taken me the weekend to calm down enough to write the DENR/MEC members about it !
Lib Hutchby is not a radical person like some of us that would have jumped up and told Ray a thing or 2 about his attitude but was very polite to him even after his patronizing speech .
Here is the video I captured trying to hear since there were not microphones. After the video is the letter I wrote and sent via email today to the MEC members .
Please let me know what you think about this ?
 
 
 
to
walt.haven@ncdenr.gov,
commissioner.womack@gmail.com,
raycovington@triad.rr.com,
Trina Ozer <trina.ozer@ncdenr.gov>,
mec.pickle@gmail.com,
kenneth.b.taylor@ncdenr.gov
Dear DENR and MEC,
Trina ,please feel free to forward this to anyone I should have added to the list.
Once again I attended the last compulsory pooling meeting 3/22 and was very disturbed by the way it was conducted .
1st let me say that as an older person my hearing is not as good as once and I had to stand up often and lean in to hear most of the speakers . Please try to arrange to at least have a microphone centered to the room to help the audience hear what is being said.
I do know the minutes are recorded and I can later read or listen to them online but I would prefer to hear it at the actual meeting.
I was there for both meetings and had trouble hearing at both .
2nd and truly the most upsetting is that DENR /MEC advertises the meeting from 9 to12.
#8 of the Agenda says "Public Questions and Comments" . Yet again after the final report at 11:25 Ray Covington asked for questions and comments . One elderly person spoke from the audience and less than 2 minutes of her speaking she was cut off .
Ray's exact words when she tried to continue is "Quit honestly ,This is My Meeting!" I am little confused on that part since I thought as many others, that this was a Public Education Study Group ?
The only person that even seemed unconcerned to what she had to say was Chairman Womack who walked out as soon as she started speaking . The audience sat respectfully listening .
Mr Covington also said, that her topic of Water does not have to do compulsory pooling ? I beg to differ , a great deal of the people of Lee and other counties rely on wells for their drinking water . Many grow their food , animals and farm . Nothing will not grow without water.
Water should be an issue on all of the MEC boards .
Ray went on to speaking about this longer than she had time to speak in all? It was patronizing , the way he said " and by all means , I don't think there is a single person in this room that wants to see NC or Earth dirty , okay . How wonderful it would be , If we all could go to Sustainable energy just like that (snapping his fingers ) It would be Fantastic ! and he went on more ... Why not just let her comment?
We are told to put our questions in writing and hand them in .Then they May or may not answer them at the end of the meeting.
Then continually at these Study groups they tell people they will answer their Q's in private After the meeting ?
I and others have concluded it is for 2 reasons .
1 so other people in the audience does not hear the concerns and 2 so the concerns are not on the recordings of the meetings again so others will not know the concerns .
As a concerned landowner I want to hear the concerns of others too. If these Study groups are not the right place for concerned people to speak to the MEC , then where ? When ?
Thank you for reading my letter.
Terica Luxton , Lee Co Landowner


For the record I took a picture of what Mr Womack was doing when he walked out while Lib spoke .
This is Jim spotting the Indyweekly mags with an aritcle of who is really is.
http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/fracking-chief-jim-womack-attacks-his-enemies-from-the-foxhole-of-his-anonymous-blog/Content?oid=3320213




Please let me know what you think about this ?
Thanks for reading .
 

Wednesday, March 20, 2013

My highlights of Lee Co meeting March 19th


My highlights of the March 19th Concerned Residents “what’s Fracking ? “ meeting. Well they say you live and learn… we learned last night passion can confuse an agenda!


To start with we had 2 hours, one hour was scheduled for a slideshow, 3 speakers and a short 20 minute movie  

6:30
[Introduction]
Slideshow  and Welcome from Ed Harris
6:45
Therese  from BREDL
Presentation
7:00
 
7:15
 
7:30
 
8:00-8:30
James  from Rafi USA
Presentation
Cecilia
Power point
 
Video about fracking
 
Q&A ,open floor

Well it did not go the way we planned… There were only about 40 people there. About ¼ had been to the last meeting so we wanted to provide different information. That much we did. We started off on path but passion took the meeting.

 People are wanting to speak and tell what their fears are which is great but as for our Agenda it did not work. This is not a complaint but an observation of what we need to focus on next time to make sure we do educate those that come wanting to learn. Without losing the passion too! maybe next time we will have the agenda announced at the beginning ?maybe posted on a poster ...or make handouts?  
Now for the highlights…1st let me say as we got there at 6 to prepare 1 couple was already there waiting to ask “what is Fracking??” .By the
time we started to set up , more were coming in asking the same! Some that actually worked at the courthouse! That is a high point in itself to me, people are wanting to know?

I also spoke to a couple from WV that had a story about their water well getting ruined from the fracking process going wrong! Still need to get back in contact with them to get more details?

We started out with the slideshow going of pictures Therese Vick put together that we collected from people that are living with this hell or has daily from PA, Ohio , ND & Colorado. We played this till about 6:40 as Ed greeted everyone and since folks were still coming in.

Our first speaker Therese Vick from Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League. http://www.bredl.org/    

She brought Senator Bob “drill baby drill” Rucho along with her too. She told us he is actually a dentist too ,that is why he is pushing drilling so hard!
 

Therese told everyone about the slideshow then gave a great presentation with a powerpoint about the EPA study and also informed us more about Senate Bill 76 and it’s nightmares for NC .

(want to learn more about SB76 go to http://rafiusa.org/takeaction/  .

Then we had James Robinson back from RafiUSA link above. James also gave a slideshow giving information on Compulsory pooling . He told us how our laws are still from 1945 …He told us how RAFI is against forced/compulsory pooling because it takes the Rights away from the landowners! He told us even Ray Covington of MEC said “Don’t Not sign leases now”. He told the Importance of going to the meetings that the MEC have. Learn and speak at the meetings about your concerns! He also shared with us the 1st Proposed Rule MEC has made. Encouraging everyone to write in your comments on it here before Friday.


After James spoke he explained he could not wait for the end of the meeting so if anyone had Q’s for him please ask now? And they did, many questions and comments too.  

Well we were still doing fair on our Agenda !


Janeth V Benitez from Workers for Clean Water ,spoke in Cecilia’s place, giving examples of the effects on rent & expenses for the poor and low income workers of NC.
Then she gave part of her time to a student from Lee Co, Reggie Marsh, to speak on the effects on students and athletes if fracking came.

 
 
 
While Therese was trying to get the movie started, comments started coming in …Well we were sliding away from our agenda by then.
Well to make a long story shorter …the movie never made it.

But folks talked! Which even though we did not have an Organized Agenda meeting … I am sure people learned a lot in the process. If nothing else they surely learned, people are Passionate about their worries for their future water, air and land!

I tried to get some of the names but forgive me if I missed someone…

 
MaryAnn and Christine admins from
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Say-no-to-fracking-in-NC/208150309204038?ref=ts&fref=ts  they talked to the audience about what they’ve seen themselves and learned running their page. Including the fact that MaryAnn has dealt with Benzene and radiation in her water from fracking when she was pregnant with twins years ago.

When she brought up Benzene a nurse in the audience spoke up on some of it’s cancer causing effects on people! Lots of comments starting coming up !

We also had Representative Deb McManus, NC House District 54 to come up and speak. She told us to hold strong in our fight because “It does make a difference!” She reminded that since the SB76 has come to the floor lots more people are finally speaking up all over NC against fracking . Especially when they realized NC could become a Dumping zone for Frack waste too. She reminded us that we should be writing and calling our concerns into the Representatives and MEC . Even if they want fracking , the fact that they get 1000’s of calls & letters saying “the people Don’t want SB76 “ it will be on the records! They will have to pay attention!

We had many more people from Lee County there speak out too. Richard Hayes, reminding folks about the noise pollution involved. (Look at the videos in my last blog for examples of that, it is scary!)

Several mentioned the fact that we had to vote out a lot of the Profrackers that are in the deciding positions now. With no surprise Mike Stone and Jim Womack came up a Lot.

BTW thanks to Jeanne for going to Durham to pick them up , we also had copies of the INDY weekly magazine with the great article about Jim Womack the MEC chairman and Lee Co Commissioner, by Billy Ball. He really tells what a sneaky un-caring self-centered character Womack is.  http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/fracking-chief-jim-womack-attacks-his-enemies-from-the-foxhole-of-his-anonymous-blog/Content?oid=3320213

Mark Coggins from Sanford gave us a good tip, he explained to us that we needed to educate the voters via ballot samples! He said they make a strong impact on the voters vs signs and such! I have to admit it helped me in 2012.

We had Monica & a friend from Croatan Earth First came from Durham County to share an event they are having, 2013 Treehugger’s Ball April 27th you can find the info on their page  http://croatanearthfirst.com/

The coolest part is people kept talking even after our time was up at 8:30! We had folks standing outside talking till about 9!

I know that was not all, but I thank everyone that came out and got there. I thank everyone who helped make this happen .

We have got a lot of work ahead of us and I am sure it will not always go as “planned” but I have faith “We are making a difference”!

If you were there last night we’d love to hear your input too!

What did You learn? Any Tips ??

How can we get more people involved?   

Where can we have our next meeting ?

What would you like to do at this meeting?

Thanks for reading, Terica Luxton  


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